frozenThere is no shortage of parodies surrounding the movie “Frozen.” 

You’ve likely seen your share.

I apologize for sharing another one.

The leadership team at this church came together to create their own, all related to a pastor who is working on his sermon and won’t come out of his study.

Cheesy? Sure.

Unnecessary? Perhaps.

I do have a few questions of my own, though:

  • How do you think the church reacted after seeing this on a Sunday?
  • Why?
  • What in your church/ministry could elicit a similar reaction?

My opinion? Without knowing this church, I see a snapshot of leaders who love doing life together. Everyone got involved… and I can only assume you felt that, too. I wonder how they’re nurturing that.

Any applications or desires for your ministry?

5 goals for volunteersEarly in ministry I tried to do everything and not put anything extra on our volunteers. I quickly found that volunteers needed direction and some goals to aim at. When you have a goal, you know what’s expected of you and you aim to hit that target. Help your leaders succeed and give them some direction and goals. Here are 5 targets for your leaders to aim at every time they are with students. Notice I said every time, not just Sunday mornings or Wednesday nights. Every time they are with students (ie. at a game, choir concert, campus visit (careful on the prayer one here), mall hang out, etc.).

1) Learn names – Don’t allow yourself to believe the lie that you are not good with names. Become good with names. Become better at names than anyone you know. I recently did a post on how to remember names better. Names are extremely important, and if you say you are not good with names, you are essentially saying you don’t care to remember the most important thing about a person. Change that!

2) High 5/Pound it – Students need positive touch. I know that may sound weird, but it’s true. So many students don’t receive any touch or hardly at all, or if they do it isn’t positive or healthy. When you see a student, put your hand or fist up and connect. If it gets awkward because they go for the fist and you have a hand up, just grab their fist and say, “Lunch bag!” We usually have a line of leaders at the doors as we open up the youth room high fiving as they all come in.

3) Meet 3 new people – When a student you know has a friend with them, have them introduce you. Get to know them a bit and let them know you are glad they are there. Have a goal of meeting 3 new students every place you go. This is where it will be key for you to be good at remembering names!

4) Pray for at least 1 person – When you are talking with students, they will often give you glimpses into what is going on in their world. If you hear them say something that may be significant, ask more about it. If they are worried about something (stress, anger, sadness, whatever), find out as much as you can. Then ask if you can pray for them right there. Don’t say, “I’m praying for you” and not actually pray for them. Take a minute right there and pray for them. That is something that will stand out to them for a long time.

5) Follow up –  Take notes on conversations you have had. Write down names of students you’ve met and any info you can remember about them. Write down things you need to be praying for. Take notes on what upcoming events they are going to be a part of. When you see them next you can ask about whatever it is they talked about from the last time. That shows the student that your conversation with them wasn’t just something you were supposed to do, but that you actually listened to and cared.

When you have a goal, you will aim at it. If you don’t have a goal, you will hit it every time…you will hit nothing.

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– Erik with a “K”


Led-Zeppelin-fourAs I continue to love on students and family through pastoral care, there are some things that I’ve had to become knowledgeable about. Because students and their families are dealing with these issues and in order for me to really care for them, I need to educate myself. So I thought I’d share few of the issues with you. I am by no means an expert in any of the issues I list. My goal has been to know enough to understand what it is I’m dealing with so that I can respond better.

  1. Mental Illness – There is such a huge stigma when it comes to mental illness, because we automatically associate mental illness with a lack of smarts. Therefore, people are afraid or ashamed to talk about it. Well, I had to educate myself on the topic, so I could view and pray for my students struggling with mental illness in the right light. Sometimes I think we can tack on things and misdiagnose students based on what we think we know about the student and what’s really going on. I always push parents to seeing a professional, but that doesn’t negate my responsibility to walk with the student and family through the process. The crazy part is that out of all the kids that are struggling, only 20 percent are being diagnosed and treated. It makes me want to know more, because I most likely have students and families who are dealing with it on their own.(NAMI)
  2. Self-Harm – The Huffington Post came out with an article not to long ago that said Self-Harm was becoming main-stream thanks to the internet. I’ve definitely had more conversations concerning this topic then I would like to in my own ministry. I had to become knowledgeable about it so that I could minister and care for our students who are struggling in this area. Because even though I send them to see a professional, they still need support as they go through this journey of healing. Again, I need to know what I’m dealing with because I want to be able to care and pray for my students very specifically. I created this for my leaders(click here).
  3. Suicide – It’s the second leading cause of death for ages (10-24). And the third leading cause of death for college-age and youth (12-18). There are 5,400 attempts a day by students in grades 7-12. What’s interesting is that 4 out 5 teens who attempt suicide give warning signs. Which makes me want to know what to look for, and have some guidelines on how to respond.(TJF)
  4. Abuse – In youth group a lot of things come out concerning students. I want my leaders to know what to do in case abuse is found out. Even more than that, I want them to know the signs to look for in students who they think may be being abused. There are mandated reports so it’s crucial they understand they are bound by law to report abuse.

I think sometimes we shy away from these types of issues, because it’s like opening pandora’s box. But in Matthew 9:12 … Jesus said, “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick.” Studying Jesus’ ministry here on earth leads me to believe that He was all about blowing the door off of Pandora’s box. He spent more time with those who struggled than any other people group during his time on earth. I had to open my eyes to the fact that the majority of my students are probably struggling with something. And I can’t be so occupied with doing ministry that I neglect those who are in need of being ministered to. I have to care about these students just as much as God does. They need community and people praying for them just like everyone else and maybe even more. Just a thought! What are some other things we need to educate ourselves on so we can minister to our students and their families better?


Hope it helps,


iStock_ValueI’ve learned that with every program or event that we do in youth ministry I think one of the areas we can always improve on is the way in which we make things better. The feedback we receive from our leaders is priceless. We use that info to make next year better for them and our students. I’m sure there are a lot of you who do the same. So for some of you, I’m preaching to the choir.

If this hasn’t been something that you’ve been doing, I would humbly advise you to start. It’s a value in our ministry that leaders serve with us and not for us. Also, we have to recognize that we don’t have all the answers. And being in youth ministry doesn’t make you an expert at it. So know that you can also learn from them. Remember, they are focusing on one task, so that already gives them more time to think about it then you. It also gives them the high probability of becoming better at it than you. Which is something you should take advantage of and not fear.

I try to incorparate my volunteers input either during the planning process or by doing a debrief. And it has been super great and has helped me a ton in a lot of areas. So I thought I’d share my top five reasons for doing so, in hopes that it would help someone else value their volunteers the same.

  1. They Feel Valued – Giving them the opportunity to give feedback that may change the way things are done, says a lot about the trust you have in them. It also raises the value they bring to your ministry.
  2. They Grow In Ownership – When they have a say in what they do, they grow in ownership of the ministry. Because they are no-longer serving for the ministry, they are now serving with the ministry.
  3. They Make The Ministry Better – When you allow your leaders to take part in the planning process, you are making the ministry better. Because even if you don’t get super great ideas from them, you will at least get good ideas that could morph into super great ideas. Also, just bouncing ideas around is good for you. Especially if you are the only paid youth worker in the ministry. You need to plan and debrief with someone.
  4. They Become Great Advertisement – Word of mouth is the advertisement that can make or break your ministry. And I’ve seen it happen both ways. I’ve seen leaders recuit others based on their experience in the ministry. I’ve also seen the opposite happen. The worse thing you can do is make a volunteer feel like hired free help. The volunteer that feels valued will sing the praises of the ministry, because they’ve become a stakeholder in its success. (Check this post out for more on this topic.)
  5. They Stick Around – When I was just a volunteer I wanted to be somewhere were they valued me. There’s no longevity for a volunteer that feels like hired free help, but there is when your volunteers feel valued and needed. Listening to your leaders is valuing them, and it’s also showing a need for them and their wisdom or experience.

We just had our end of the year debrief meeting/dinner with our small group leaders. It was super great because they were given the opportunity to be heard, and to ultimately make us better. Allowing our volunteers to serve in this way, has done wonders for our volunteer ministry. And I hope it does the same for your ministry. And if you are planning and debriefing with your volunteers, leave a comment, and let me know how. I’m always looking for better ways to do things.

Hope it helps,


Thiago-nascimento-opera-background-speaker-jpg1Let’s Talk Youth Ministry Video Blog is BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! And we are posting a NEW SHOW EVERY WEEK.

 On this week’s show:

1. Nominate a Youth Ministry in Need!!

2. How to Finish Strong with Small Groups!!

3. Apps/Tools That Save TIme.

Hope it helps,

Kurt & AC

@kurtjohnston / @aaroncrumbeyac

Thiago-nascimento-opera-background-speaker-jpg1Let’s Talk Youth Ministry Video Blog is BACK!!!!!!!!!!!! And we are posting a NEW SHOW EVERY WEEK. We’ve added a bunch of great new things to the video blog. One of the things that I’m super excited about is the fact that we are giving resources away. Watch to find out how. Send Questions to:

On Today’s Show:

  1. Chick Fil a On Sunday?
  2. Who Kicked a Teenage Girl?
  3. Parents: In Or Out?


Hope it helps

Kurt & AC

Wondering how your ministry measures up? Doing better, worse or equal to the church down the street? Feeling the pressure from your church’s board to perform? Here’s #2 in ways to measure whether your youth ministry is hitting the “sustainability mark” or not. (For the attendance formula, see the post from 3/18/14.)

1 Adult Volunteer for Every 5 Students: This means the “face-to-face,” consistently present type of team members. Usually this covers your Sunday school teachers, small group leaders, choir assistants, and youth group adult volunteers – anyone who your students see on a regular basis. To give them the most relationship for the ministry buck, it means consistent interaction from those called to serve. In my observations around the country as a Senior Consultant for Ministry Architects, this is the number reason why a “too frequent” rotation of adults isn’t nearly as beneficial to the spiritual nurture of your students as adults they see 2+ times a month. So many youth today have enough “revolving door” adults in their life, it doesn’t help when the church is just one more place where relational roots can’t grow deep.

When counting your volunteer ratio, this generally doesn’t cover those wonderful support volunteers who serve dinners, drive, work a sign-up table, etc., unless they’re there every week in that role. Support volunteers have a valuable place in your ministry, but aren’t considered in the 1-to-5 since their participation is more infrequent. This also doesn’t cover paid staff like interns, the pastor…or you.

So here’s the math and its easy: You’ve got 20 youth who regularly attend one of the church’s ministries. A healthy target number for adult volunteer team members is 4, plus you as leader and any other staff.

Next up? What your ministry budget should be. Watch for it in a few more days…



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