Before David was King of Israel, he was an intern–in a sense. David wasn’t appointed immediately after being anointed by God. God put a clear call on David’s life but didn’t make him chief right away. Interesting… Here are 3 Important Things that we can learn from David’s “internship”:

1. IMPORTANT DISTINCTION: Pastorship is not a job; it’s a lifestyle. In the old testament, after Saul (king of Israel) disobeyed God, the prophet Samuel went to the house of a man named Jesse (David’s dad) looking for a new king, David wasn’t in his house when Samuel came. Why? He was tending to his flock. Samuel said, “Anoint him. This is the one.” Then, during that whole Goliath debacle, David was making trips to and fro his sheep, and when he knew he couldn’t keep going back and forth, he entrusted another to watch over his flock. There’s no way they could be left alone. He was DEDICATED to that herd. David’s anointing wasn’t for him. It was for those that he was called to shepherd. Whether you’re called to be a pastor vocationally or not, you are called to love the flock that you’re with, even if you’re only there for a few months (Paul anyone?).

2. IMPORTANT DISMANTLING: “Your calling” is not yours. It’s only yours in the sense that God has entrusted it to you. In every other sense, it’s His to own and run. He doesn’t need you to accomplish His purposes. However, God desires for you to be a part of what He is doing. What grace! So dismantle any of your own notions of pride or agenda coming into your internship. Even as a young teenager, David knew that his life was not about himself. Even after killing Goliath, the Shaq O’neal of the Philistines, David remained humble as he relentlessly served Saul. Treat your supervisor as such: with unrelenting service. Remember: God didn’t need David, but by grace anointed him as a doctor for an Israel that was sick. David let God call the shots, and God took down the giants.

3. IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER: If you don’t have patience, you’ll never be a doctor. We are all called to be doctors for His Kingdom. So pray for patience. It won’t be easy, but God wants build it into your character (it’s more permanent that way). David had to wait 15 years to be king after being anointed by the Lord, then another 7 years before he was made ruler over all of Israel. Much of that time he was hunted by king Saul whom he would replace. David knew he would be king, but refused to take matters into his own hands to expedite the process. Even after Saul was delivered into his hands (could’ve easily killed him during a serendipitous squat) twice, David chose to trust God’s timing. If David’s picture is in the dictionary, it’s next to his 22 year definition of patience. I doubt that you’ll have to wait 22 years for a job, or that your supervisor is trying to kill you, but even if said things are true: abide in grace.

Chance Espinoza is a worship intern with Saddeback Student Ministry’s Worship team.

From time to time we get a question that perhaps we don’t know the answer to or like this one, where there could be dozens of answers to and we put it out you , the More Than Dodgeball Community.

Nathan Crabtree from Northminster Presbyterian Church in Hickory, N.C. wants to know:

Do you do paid internships? If so how much is a good amount to pay an intern? 

So please weigh-in and give us a brief description about how your Church does internships.

Are yours paid or unpaid?

Do people pay your church to intern? 

Do you offer college credit?

-Geoff (Twitter)



Dear Friends,?

If you’re looking for a funny story tonight…come back tomorrow and the next day because the last two in this series are ridiculously goofy-stupid. What WAS I thinking?!?

Tonight’s ministry blog is more along the lines of a cathartic confession.?

My most painful heart-spot in youth ministry so far? How I treated my interns and key volunteers when I was a younger, “hot-shot” youth pastor. Among the five churches I’ve served over 30 years, I served a couple of the largest youth ministries in my denom in FL and? had the big head to go with it. To quote Hermione Granger from H.P. movie fame, “What an idiot!”?

Some of you reading this know exactly what I’m talking about because you suffered through it. Just know this: if I could change the past, I would move heaven and earth to take back what I said or didn’t say, did or didn’t do. PLEASE know that I deeply regret those times. I didn’t value or respect you like I should have. I do now, believe me. I hope you will forgive me.?

Moral of the story: Ah, if I knew then what I know now…but that’s the rub. We don’t know “then” what we know “now” unless we’re smart enough to learn from someone older and wiser. Cool young youth guy/chick youth pastor, you’re not “all that and a candy bar.” If you’re wondering if you qualify, then you probably do just a little.?

Jesus was the ONLY one who could claim “hot shot” pastor bragging rights and yet He never did. He let His team lead while He served. Sure He took His turn at teaching, but He also sent His volunteers out to share the good news. Jesus wasn’t above getting food ready for the team. He treated His interns with respect and love, empowering them for greatness. He would do wash prep work so His people could sit and relax after a long ministry day.? ? ?

Treat your people like gold. Affirm them and do it often. Surprise them by highlighting their gifts and talents. Allow them to shine and share their version of The Story. You’re not the only one who can preach and teach. Maybe it’s your turn to do the dishes or cook. Equip and empower. The occasional gifts or special dinners in their honor don’t hurt, either.?

If you’re worried that accomplishing the above will take too much time away from “real” ministry to your kids, don’t. Your students will learn a WAY greater lesson about the love of Jesus by watching how you love your “disciples.”?

Trust me on this one, young Skywalker.

Yoda